-  [JOIN IRC!]

Subject   (new thread)
Password  (for post and file deletion)
  • Supported file types are: BMP, GIF, JPG, PNG
  • Maximum file size allowed is 4883 KB.
  • Images greater than 400x400 pixels will be thumbnailed.
  • Currently 298 unique user posts. View catalog

  • Blotter updated: 2015-09-02 Show/Hide Show All

File 140245769217.jpg - (2.42MB , 3214x1714 , mahraffle.jpg )
18155 No. 18155 Locked Stickied hide quickreply [Reply]
Welcome to /w/! Please keep all images and discussion related to Military and Weapons. Anything posted that is not related to the topic of the board will be deleted. No memes, image macros or motivators/demotivators whatsoever. Flame wars and shitposting will not be tolerated. No pornographic material of any kind as this is a SFW board.

Before you push that submit button please ask yourself "Am I making a post which is either funny, informative, or interesting on any level?" If not, then please refrain from posting.

Try to avoid making repeat threads. Before you post, glance through the pages and see if the topic has come up in the past. If it has and you have something to add, bump the thread. Bumping old threads with nothing to add to them will not be tolerated.

Any rules that are broken may result in a ban at mod's discretion. Your thread may just be deleted, consider it a warning.

Happy shooting/stabbing/slashing/bludgeoning /w/.

Obligatory post of my rifle because it's awesome

File 144748040996.png - (7.74KB , 754x446 , trunion install.png )
18227 No. 18227 hide expand quickreply [Reply]
Hello fellows.

I am pursuing, for my first rifle build, an AK-47 underfolder. I know, I know. I should have just bought one ready made or gone for an AR-15. Not what I wanted to do. I like the craftsmanship aspect of this project. I have a lovely Polish kit and have ordered all my parts except the barrel. I know how it all fits together and what I need to accomplish for assembly, but there are a couple issues I'm going to have.

I live in an apartment, so no hydraulic press or welding equipment here, but there are dudes in caves in Afghanistan building these things so I know it's possible. I'll be populating and pressing the barrel using sections of pipe, a length of all thread, and some washers and bolts. I'll be installing the trigger guard using two pieces of channel iron as a sort of stand and just hammering against the rivet backs.

Where I am running into trouble is the front and rear trunion. They both use short rivets, which means I need my bucking bar to be inside the trunion. So basically my idea (see attached) is to put the rivet face down in a divot drilled on an aluminum plate, use a square bolt (with the face pressing on the rivet back) balanced on a stack of pennies or something as my bucking bar, and hammer away. This approach will work with the constant pressure from a press, but I don't know if the hammer will have the same effect or if I will just end up denting the inside of the trunion to shit as the hammer strikes bounce the bolt around.

The other option, which I am less enthusiastic about, follows this guide: http://www.akparts.com/akinfo7.html. Or at least what I can extract from it; it's not very well written. Same approach as above, except you heat up the shank with a torch until it's red hot and squish it against your bucking bar (square bolt in my case). I just wonder if this would affect the integrity of the rivets, and if I would end up getting my bolt stuck on a rivet and have to drill it out.

I know there's a bolt cutter conversion for rivet pressing, but I'd like to avoid spending the $70 for something i"d use once, maybe twice.
1 post omitted. Click Reply to view.
>> No. 18230
I broke down and bought the bolt cutter and rivet crusher jaws. I'm trying not to get the cops called on a noise violation so I want to minimize the amount of pounding I'm doing. Plus I recently relearned the value of having the proper tools in an unrelated project. For anyone remotely interested, here is a list of all the tools that are going into this project:

For receiver work:
5/32 cobalt bit (rivets)
17/64 cobalt bit for swell neck rivets and to dimple my "rivet punch"
11/64 cobalt bit (rear trunnion long rivet)
3mm cobalt bit (front sight pins)
7mm HSS reamer (barrel pin)
1/4" HSS endmill (barrel pin)
Dremel (I got a $20 WEN from Amazon; make sure you get one with grinding discs and diamond tipped bits grinding bits)
Dremel carbon steel polishing brush (I bought this for surface prep. Do not buy it. It didn't even mar the paint on my old polish kit. Used Scotchbrite pads and had great success.)
Dremel tungsten carbide cutting attachment
Brass/Steel Punch Set
Steel center punch
General purpose metal file
Message too long. Click here to view the full text.
>> No. 18231
File 145030265540.jpg - (557.95KB , 1500x1125 , IMG_4781.jpg )
After many days of work hunched over on my cardboard-covered balcony (I only put maybe an hour a day into this), the receiver is drilled. Most of that time was spend opening up the holes for the underfolder stock.

I transferred hole positions from the trunnions to the receiver with masking tape, center punched all the holes, drilled pilot holes with my 3mm bit, then opened the holes with a 5/32" or 11/64" bit as appropriate. Had a couple improperly located holes, but more on that in the next post.

I drilled out the big holes for the stock with the 17/64 bit and the smaller holes to the side with 11/64, then finished them out with a dremel tungsten carbide cutting bit. It was a gigantic pain in the ass.

Lesson learned: If you're building a sidefolder or underfolder, spend a little extra to get a properly cut receiver.
>> No. 18232
File 145030377663.jpg - (353.34KB , 1500x1125 , IMG_4794.jpg )
In this picture, you can clearly see that I fucked up the right-side front trunnion holes. I drilled my pilot holes, and then instead of checking them against the trunnion, opened them up. Sooo you can see they were kind of off. The forward-most and rear-most are OK, as the rivets will fill in as they deform, but that middle hole ended up way too big.

I corrected from the original hole by inserting the trunnion and using it as a jig to drill through from the left hand side. I cut a small slice off a tootsie roll pop stick (same diameter as the rivet) and secured it in the hole in the proper position with masking tape, then applied JB Weld with a toothpick to fill in the gap. After the gun is finished you won't see any hint of the JB Weld.

After this fiasco I was more careful. Some of my pilot holes for the rear trunnion were off, but I figured out a pretty easy way to correct them. I inserted the rear trunnion and eyeballed which direction the hole needed to go. So let's say my pilot hole was left of where it needed to be; I would need to open it up to the right. I scratched the rough appropriate diameter into the receiver with my center punch. Now I had a small drilled hole located somewhere inside of a larger circle. Using the dremel and round diamond-tipped bit, I carefully ground down maybe 1/32" around the circle I had scratched in. This allowed me to center my 5/32" bit over the proper location, instead of in the off-center pilot hole. Doing it this way required only some minor finishing touches with the dremel cutting bit and no more JB Weld.

Tomorrow I plan to rivet the front trunnion to the receiver. After that I will press and pin the barrel, then populate the barrel and paint the whole mess before assembling the stock. I suspect the barrel will be the biggest pain in the ass of this entire experience.
>> No. 18234
File 145082413272.jpg - (659.59KB , 1500x2000 , barrel press.jpg )
So, a couple days behind schedule but I got around to the barrel today. This is my ghetto ass set up. I had 4 stacked zinc washers and they deformed and popped through the rear, so I slid the old bolt cutter jaws on to reinforce them.

In retrospect, I should have installed the barrel before touching the rear of the receiver...
>> No. 18235
File 145084353563.jpg - (529.10KB , 2000x1500 , fucked receiver.jpg )
So this is what happens when you try to put the barrel in using the receiver as your stop. I was able to bend it back into place with pliers, but now I know.

On a different note, the barrel is stuck hard about 1/4" from where it needs to be. I bend fucking grade 8 threaded rod trying to move it and it did not budge. No luck getting it to move back out either. I should have cleaned up the inside of the front trunnion with some emory cloth before I went to down but it looked good to me. Ordering another $90 worth of specialty tools to try and work it in. If this fails I'm going to abandon this particular project and sell what I've got on gunbroker, then save a few bucks for a headspaced kit.

File 140536900221.jpg - (1.90MB , 3264x2448 , IMG_20140714_141333.jpg )
18174 No. 18174 hide expand quickreply [Reply]
Picked up this baby today..
1 post and 1 image omitted. Click Reply to view.
>> No. 18176
File 140538242073.jpg - (19.51KB , 480x360 , sharkfc.jpg )
I'm pretty jelly, but how come you didn't go with the Canik55 Shark FC? Alloy frame, factory compensated, and costs less.
>> No. 18178
Because to my knowledge they don't make a semi-compact one in .45 ACP. Also, this one was 150 below every price I've ever seen online for the same.
>> No. 18180
File 140641936960.jpg - (339.44KB , 900x675 , ar24k.jpg )
Good purchase. I have an AR24k and I love it. As designs go, very little beats the CZ75 basic format as a great platform for manufacturers to put their mark on.
>> No. 18220
Ohhhh shit Gravy got himself a Jericho! Lucky bastard....
>> No. 18233
Hey present do you have your thread from /regs/ saved where you posted pictures about the hospital you worked at? I wanna have that

File 131807340044.jpg - (108.16KB , 800x530 , 800px-Grendel_P30_left.jpg )
17538 No. 17538 hide quickreply [Reply]
I have come across a Grendel P30 thanks to a friend of a friend. Went into the woods to test it, and it functions well enough.
What I like about it is that, even though it uses small rounds (.22 WMR), it holds a whopping 30 rounds in a single magazine.

Any thoughts? I've never even heard of this thing before, so I'm not sure what kind of performance I should be expecting, or looking forward to.
>> No. 17540
File 131810463477.jpg - (545.50KB , 1067x1600 , PMR30_with_ammo_8307.jpg )
Congrats OP, you've found a rare and fascinating weapon. The Grendel P30 is the spiritual predecessor of the Kel-Tec PMR30. Even if the performance is a little wonky, it will have pretty good collector's value.
>> No. 17554
Did you find the grip a bit fat, or did it fit your hand well enough?
>> No. 17582
Comfortable. Most handguns feel a bit small to me, this one not so much.
>> No. 18226

File 144133413180.jpg - (88.84KB , 450x577 , image.jpg )
18222 No. 18222 hide quickreply [Reply]
Men of war
>> No. 18223
File 144133432078.jpg - (58.00KB , 350x500 , image.jpg )
>> No. 18224
File 144133440365.jpg - (127.98KB , 640x427 , image.jpg )
>> No. 18225
File 144133459459.jpg - (116.12KB , 750x491 , image.jpg )

File 140597712589.jpg - (55.55KB , 400x599 , 400px-It_is_far_better_to_face_the_bullets.jpg )
18179 No. 18179 hide quickreply [Reply]
Is joining the Australian Defence Force a socially responsible action?

How can I know?

Do you think it will be fulfilling?

I think in retrospect it will feel as good as it does it prospect - the challenges and the difficulties and the skills that I learn. But during it will be unpleasant. I also fear how people with military experience have antisocial tendencies - like the veteran who once spazzed out at me in a food line for no apparent reason.

I think it will make me more confident though, through the leadership experience of being an officer, having access to intelligence information and knowing just how physically secure I am, right?
>> No. 18221
Amerifag vet here so I can't speak for the ADF but our service seems to have the same problems. Veterans have problems with relationships, drinking and jobs.

Confidence in myself is solid, I know how far I can run and how high I can jump. I fear no physical combatant and find myself being much more aware of the world around me than most non military.

I drank for a whole year when I got back from my tour and I've had other substance abuse issues even after getting a handle on drinking. I really didn't even see anything to bad either, comparatively. What I have seen though separates me from most of my peers. I've been at parties where people wonder aloud what it's like to see a dead body. I know. I'm not saying that to be dramatic but it's that for every aspect of military life from knowing that 5.56 buzzes and a 7.62 cracks as they fly past your head. Once you see it you can't unsee basically.

File 141655973472.jpg - (29.53KB , 450x493 , Examples.jpg )
18209 No. 18209 hide expand quickreply [Reply]
So once in a while I try to find anything about what can/can't be carried/owned in California. As far as I have been able to find, CA law does not mention collapsible batons being restricted. The only law that I've seen or heard someone use to say batons are illegal is the mention of "billy" clubs (see pic) in the CA Penal Code 16590 which mentions 22210. There is also a part (CA PC 22295) that says that security guards can have a club or baton, but nowhere does it mention that they are prohibited. However, I found a NY case where they specifically say that a collapsible baton is not a billy club.
My question is: Do you think that this means batons are technically legal in CA? I know, plenty of law folks get pissy and try to push their own definitions/rules. I'm just asking about the technicality of it.


"In People v. Talbert, 107 AD2d 842 (3 Dept 1985) the court examined the question of what qualifies as a billy club. . . . "In our view, based on the manner in which the statute is set forth, the term 'billy' must be strictly interpreted to mean a heavy wooden stick with a handle grip which, from its appearance, is designed to be used to strike an individual and not for other lawful purposes."
1 post omitted. Click Reply to view.
>> No. 18211
File 141691385542.jpg - (21.37KB , 360x470 , BillyTheKid.jpg )
If we're going to go back into the etymology of the word (of which I was aware but good on you), then there is very strong evidence that it applies specifically to clubs given to law enforcement personnel. From what I've found now and before, "billy club" originated from the clubs used by a "Billy" referring to the law enforcers of the time who worked under King William IV, hence the moniker. Such clubs were not just weapons, but were also specifically used as a badge of office as well. The image of a billy club is still so strongly associated with police that even kids know what a billy looks like and who has it.

A few years ago, the relevant law was CA Penal code 12020. I need to verify, but that seems to have been replaced with the codes I linked earlier. So if we do assume that billy was a generic term at the time of the law-writing (the last few years), it still has to mean a smallish carven-handled wooden club used by police. Considering the fact that they listed numerous specific weapon names, going so far as to include sap and blackjack, it looks like they do acknowledge the specificity of naming which would mean that if a baton were illegal to carry, it should be unambiguously listed as such. If given a baton and a billy, I think that most people would name them differently; but I doubt that most people would know the difference between sap and blackjack.

Check out italicized paragraph under the picture "Constables did not begin wearing uniforms until 1829 or carrying warrant cards until the 1880s"


Fun side-fact: Silly-billy may have maybe also come from King William IV himself. Or a cousin or something. "Who is silly billy now?"
>> No. 18214
Not sure if you noticed, but the etymology link you linked says that billy club didn't mean crowbar literally:
"originally burglars' slang for "crowbar;" meaning "policeman's club"
>> No. 18216
Dude, the California Penal code was written in 1872, not the last few years. Each time it's edited (which is whenever a bunch of lawyers are uncomfortable with their job security) the revision date is noted as the date of the law since only the latest version is at all relevant. The language of that section, and thus the definition of "billy," dates from at least 1872.

Do you know the difference between a comma and a semicolon?
>> No. 18217

I'm not attacking you there, just pointing things out. Since grammar is very important when examining law, let's look closely at the semicolon for practice. It is being used in one of two ways. Either it is joining the "slang" and "meaning" parts together like this: "originally burglars' slang for "crowbar;" meaning "policeman's club"" or it is being used as a part of a list as a sort of "greater comma" like this: "Here are three examples of familiar sequences: one, two, and three; a, b, and c; first, second, and third." If it is the second, then it is not related to burglars' slang, and it is readable as: "club, 1848, American English, meaning "policeman's club"". Either way you look at it, it does mean "policeman's club". So to answer your question: yes, I know the difference between a semicolon and a comma, now you do too. Now take a breath and relax. I'm not out to get you. If you have anything to prove your point I would like to see it. I can't really put it any more politely.

Yes, the CA penal code was adopted in 1872, but it was updated in the last 5-10 years. Because it was updated, we can look at the latest revision as applicable "since only the latest version is at all relevant". In the latest version (as I pointed out earlier) we know that the law is very specific in scope because the difference between a sap and a blackjack is not big, but it makes that distinction regardless. It even goes so far as to include both "sandclub" and "sandbag" both of which are obviously quite similar. The sand ones are more similar that "billy" and "collapsible baton", thus one can only infer that they intentionally left out the batons.
Additionally, for it to be banned by the CA penal code, a collapsible baton must be an "instrument or weapon of the kind commonly known as a billy, blackjack, sandbag, sandclub, sap, or slungshot". This means that the club part is not the important part, but the "billy". And as the historical data shows, the law has changed in innumerable ways, but the popular and even the legal definition of "billy" in this context is and has been clearly and strongly defined for centuries. As I said earlier, it is so strongly ingrained into popular knowledge that it is part of halloween costumes even for kids (see earlier img). Ergo, vis a vis, concordantly, quid pro quo, Clarice, the definition does not cover collapsible batons because the law simply does not mention them.

A baseball bat is not a billy, a tire iron is not a billy, a nunchuk is not a billy, a tree branch is not a billy, a chair leg is not a billy. Why, then, do you think that a collapsible baton is? If they meant weapon, then they could just have put "blunt, striking weapon", but they didn't.
>> No. 18219
With all that said, are there weapons that are totally legit legal to carry? The CA code doesn't have the "bludgeoning instrument" (or whatever) part that the NY code does. If nothing else I would think that a walking stick should be fine. Someone involved in law once told me that just having a bat or similar in your car is proof that you are going to commit a crime. But I don't have proof either way.

File 132495317141.jpg - (158.61KB , 640x480 , Four-Rifles.jpg )
17684 No. 17684 hide expand quickreply [Reply]
WHERE can I OWN and PRACTICE firing assault weapons CHEAPLY?

I live in CA. The closer the better. (Idaho?) I am hoping to find a nigger or faggot or person that will keep/use my weapon while I am here in CA.

I am talking about full auto AK-74 and SCAR stuff. Silencers if possibly. I want to actually qualify for the militia for which I am liable by law.
15 posts and 1 image omitted. Click Reply to view.
>> No. 18004
OP means Assault Rifles not assault weapons... Masshole here and you are talking bout class 3 firearms. To be clear an assault weapon is Semi only and has things such as an adjustable stock and/or pistol grip and or vertical grip, and things of that nature. The term Assault Weapon was purposely invented to trick people into thinking guns like a semi only ar15 are full auto and only for the army/etc bullshit excuses to ban shit.
ANYTHING full auto OR with a supresser is banned NATIONWIDE unless it is owed by someone with a class 3.

TLDR To own full auto/silencer u need to bend over and take it from the ATF no matter what state you are in, and assault weapons are NOT what you are talking about.
>> No. 18007
>I am talking about full auto AK-74 and SCAR stuff. Silencers if possibly.

i dont want to start a flame war or anything.
>> No. 18168
But of corse you know that a Class III Federal Firearms license is required before you can legally own a "AK-&4 and SCAR stuff" when you do that you can go to any one of the 100 ranges around LA that allow Full Auto weapins. To belong to a militia all you have to do is find a bunch of fools that have shot them selves in the head too many times
>> No. 18181

You can indeed get body armor in California.
>> No. 18215
Here is the information you seek.

File 140314371493.jpg - (71.35KB , 800x450 , Samurai.jpg )
18160 No. 18160 hide quickreply [Reply]
Who else thinks that Bushido is the proper code of conduct for a warrior to live his life?
>> No. 18161
File 140314416230.jpg - (35.36KB , 300x379 , samurai2.jpg )
>> No. 18173
There's no greater danger than playing it safe.
>> No. 18199
“The first step toward success is taken when you refuse to be a captive of the environment in which you find yourself.”– -Mark Caine

That includes codes of honour. The true warrior does not live his life by the descriptions of mere languages, let alone ''codes''.
>> No. 18204
I think the warrior monks have a better approach. They keep their cool under amy circumstances. The samurai kill themselves over the least bit of shame.

File 141713234754.jpg - (78.26KB , 400x400 , Cold_Dead_Hand_cover.jpg )
18212 No. 18212 hide quickreply [Reply]

Pay attention, hombres. This boy's got somethin' to say.

File 141061178365.jpg - (388.91KB , 1598x1200 , 1.jpg )
18201 No. 18201 hide quickreply [Reply]
LehrBtl HOS II PzGrenBtl 173
>> No. 18207
File 14140536557.jpg - (78.83KB , 1024x768 , Hindenburg.jpg )

File 139707023726.jpg - (190.97KB , 500x375 , get-max-gains1[1].jpg )
18138 No. 18138 hide quickreply [Reply]
How viable is body building, ie. enormous raw strength, for fighting?

What is the result if you are both a body builder and a practitioner of a martial art?
>> No. 18139
File 139713277482.jpg - (47.66KB , 600x400 , lesnar.jpg )
>What is the result if you are both a body builder and a practitioner of a martial art?
Probably something like this.

Keep in mind bodybuilding =/= "enormous raw strength training." Most of the record holders for weightlifting don't look at all like bodybuilders, generally because they aren't. Strength training is great for martial arts. Bodybuilding, not so much because of the inherent focus on aesthetics and the cyclical nature of the bulk and cut phases towards that end.
>> No. 18200
More strength is always better. The main problem is time. Professional fighters don't necessarily have the time to bulk up as much as they want to. There's only 24 hours in a day.
>> No. 18203
Raw strength and body building are not synonymous.

As a jujutsuka, I can tell you that the bigger a guy's muscles are, without a proportional increase to his weight or strength, means I can deliver a muscle compressing attack that will cause him more pain. Also, a bigger body is less able to slither around.

File 140830944573.jpg - (91.11KB , 1250x770 , 25f6no4.jpg )
18183 No. 18183 hide expand quickreply [Reply]
Not sure if this should go in /sfcsp/ instead, since I will accept fictional designs, but I thought it would be cool if there was a vehicle schematic thread. I've mostly got warships right now. A lot of never-weres. Very interesting!

I'll start with one of the more unusual proposals - the German Grossflugzeugkreuzers, colossal hybrid aircraft carriers/battleships designed with commerce raiding in mind. They were designed to sink merchant marine ships while laying down air support to counter enemy patrols.
10 posts and 10 images omitted. Click Reply to view.
>> No. 18194
File 140831282674.jpg - (470.02KB , 2475x1100 , s584165.jpg )
A colossal "cruiser submarine" that ultimately was never built.

Two even more ambitious proposals existed, but information on them is scarce at the moment.
>> No. 18195
File 14083129542.jpg - (606.69KB , 2000x1635 , s511-05.jpg )
A "flight deck cruiser" combining light cruiser sized armament with 36 scout-bombers.

I guess KanColle should rename their CAVs to CFs, huh.
>> No. 18196
File 140831302689.jpg - (653.04KB , 3000x1875 , s511-06.jpg )
A cruiser-killer requirement that ultimately led to the Alaska class also yielded this unused proposal based on an Iowa hull.
>> No. 18197
File 140831318786.jpg - (451.33KB , 3000x1425 , s511-13.jpg )
Possibly the ultimate battleship proposed in the United States navy, this fast Montana also boasted an insanely high shaft horsepower only obtainable through a return to turbo-electric drive. Ultimately the proposal was deemed so ambitious it was felt that it should make up the Montana's never-were successor, and development was indefinitely halted.
>> No. 18198
File 140831335474.jpg - (380.96KB , 3000x1400 , s511-66.jpg )
Apparently Des Moines and Worcester would've had a nice little sister in the form of the abortive CL-154.

The power of fully automatic loading was phenomenal when first developed. In particular I have special respect for the 8"/55RFs used on Des Moines.

File 140114750053.jpg - (48.68KB , 440x440 , pritanoichosenslingers.jpg )
18146 No. 18146 hide quickreply [Reply]
I would posit that a batallion of ancient balearic slingers has superior range and firing rate to an 18th century musket infantry. They even used lead bullets.

What caused the decline of the sling in warfare?
>> No. 18147
Bunch of slack jawed faggots decided it was easier to use guns.
>> No. 18150
It seems to me that the sling has many advantages over the bow that were attributed to firearms. Easier to train and easier to maintain. If your sling breaks you just fashion a new one. A good bow could take weeks and weeks of bending and curing. Not to mention archery is highly skill dependent. As long as there are small rocks around, a slinger will not run out of ammunition, an archer is going to have 30 - 60 shots max.

Slings with metal bullets were known to have extreme velocity and penetrating power, I'd guess they just couldn't get through plate armor. That reasoning hasn't been valid for a few hundred years now.

As far as modern weapons go, a sling is perfect for concealed carry, and both silent and accurate. You could literally keep the whole thing in your pocket, and even if you were stopped by the cops it is unlikely they would recognize it as a weapon, you could say it was lingerie. You don't even need to carry ammunition if there are rocks around, which there always are in urban areas with degrading cement.

I'm not saying you would just whip it out during a close confrontation, but if the guy runs off with your wallet you could nail him in the backside at 50 yards.
>> No. 18156
>>18154 A sling only really takes a few seconds to get up to speed, maybe 5-10 at the most if you're really trying to hurl the thing... the accuracy issue is a real concern, but with training presumably it dissipates.
>> No. 18182
Worst comes to worse, you can hit someone over the side of the head with it. The centripetal force generated on a medium sized stone in a leather mace is not to be discounted. In extremity, the rocks can also be thrown.

Also, all slingers would have carried daggers of some sort. So a sling isn't a game changer like a gun, it's part of a balanced fighting style.

File 14053827702.jpg - (80.15KB , 177x250 , PreviewAgent.jpg )
18177 No. 18177 hide quickreply [Reply]
Why do Australian army soldiers always look like this. The sailors and airman look normal, and so do soldiers of others nations, but Australians consistently have this long face and dead smile with PTSD eyes.

File 131803756395.jpg - (128.13KB , 640x480 , pix266845873.jpg )
17534 No. 17534 hide quickreply [Reply]
Americans, we have 3 petitions on Whitehouse.gov, one of which is to pressure investigations of the treasonous fast and furious scandal, wherein Obama/Holder supplied our enemies with arms.




Pic is a .500 with some incendiary rounds.
>> No. 17536
Treasonous? Enemies? Nobody's declared war here. Get your terminology straight before you try pushing legal issues, or you're no better than the brady bunch with their "assault clips".

SAGE has been used.
>> No. 17537

Not OP but, the ATF has been allowing thousands (around 1,300) of guns to walk across the border. Agents were telling dealers to complete strawman sales to suspicious individuals. The guns would leave the shop and the ATF would do nothing to follow them.

They issued statistics such as "90% of guns used by the drug cartels are traced to the United States." This is only true because about 1 in 4-5 guns confiscated were submitted for tracing. As well as Operation Fast and Furious being a source of these guns.

These false statistics were used as reasoning to attempt to enact new gun control laws in the border states (multiple firearm sales reporting).

For further info:
>> No. 17562
Go and peruse the Webster’s dictionary definition of treason and see if the justice departments forcing the illegal shipment of arms to a treatied sovereign(Mexico)WITH OUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE OR REQUEST.

Once you add the over 1,000 rifles and grenade launchers they shipped through Florida to the Zetas in Honduras you realize a number closer to 4,300 military grade arms shipped illegally and with the Justice Departments seal of approval. There is no way you can deny this shit with over 13 long term members of the BATF getting shit canned for speaking out about this, the fucking director had to ignore a direct order from Holder when he testified on the 4th of July and almost all of Holders testimony before congress has now been proven false by e mails leaked from the white house. It seems some one in the white house has the conscience to leak the proof that Holder and the President knew about this from the start. Mexico now says over 675 murders have been committed by these weapons and they are certain that number is in the tens of thousands, and we have AT LEAST three dead Americans because of this bullshit, ALL OF THEM LAW ENFORCEMENT, ONE FED AND TWO COPS. Over 475 rifles have been confiscated in the US during traffic stops. Who knows how many are now in the hands of those radical La Raza Assholes. They think the entire west coast is their land and they plan on taking it back.

But lets play partisan politics on this instead of treating it as the National security risk that is is.
is treason.

>> No. 17922
You don't need to claim anything to convince us the ATF blows dick.
>> No. 18167
But you know why the Fox fools haven't been harping on this lately, right. The program was started bt George W. Bush and happened very few times since.

File 135787325524.jpg - (424.04KB , 3648x2736 , PICT0009.jpg )
18034 No. 18034 hide quickreply [Reply]
i live in virginia and i heard a rumor about open carry in our state... before you say google for the answer i already have and all i came up with is that they allow open carry but doesnt say anything about rifles being allowed or not...i own an AK and want to open carry anyone know if they allow rifles and if so how id go about open carry?
>> No. 18035
thats mine...minus bipod
>> No. 18036
Any reason why? Cause I'd keep a low profile right now if I were you.
>> No. 18037
i live in a bad part of town and im not 21 till april so no legal pistols... basically to carry till i can get concealed permit
>> No. 18166
All US states allow open carry. But only fools and show offs take their Ak out in public. I mean really do you need a Ak at McDonalds In case the order gets messed up?
>> No. 18228

That AK is tacticool as fuck! Nice poly mag.

File 133203731228.jpg - (3.32KB , 130x130 , REX.jpg )
17838 No. 17838 hide expand quickreply [Reply]
How do you guys feel about Rex Kwon Do? I think it's pretty legit, it seems to incorporate a good defense system as the base of the attacks.
16 posts and 1 image omitted. Click Reply to view.
>> No. 17947
Some aspects of wing chun are really useful. Trapping and blocking mainly. but it's a weak art in general.
>> No. 17948
Trapping has limited uses and application and pretty much every other serious striking style does blocking/defense better than WC.
>> No. 18039
Depends on your goal, really. In my experience, Wing Chun is perfect for stopping a fight before it gets too serious while avoiding injury to yourself. Offensively, stuff like Pak does well enough in a pinch, but the system wasn't really developed for use against people who know what they're doing.
>> No. 18042
Oh this is gonna be good...

please go on.
>> No. 18165
To the fool that thinks that Krav Maga is over rated should find out which martial arts style is being taught in the Israeli special forces and Mossad also Along with Hwarang Do, Krav Maga was taught to Army special forces operators in the 70's. You don't understand.

File 140164945175.jpg - (154.61KB , 513x1221 , bohemianrhapCZ.jpg )
18151 No. 18151 hide quickreply [Reply]
Weapons humor thread. Made this a while back.
>> No. 18152
File 140164948032.png - (338.40KB , 400x334 , G6.png )
>> No. 18153
File 140177645819.jpg - (185.45KB , 1190x705 , ss bismarck.jpg )
You really made the Bohemian rhapsody on /k/?
>> No. 18163
File 140349474855.jpg - (126.30KB , 960x687 , LAND_M106A6-PIM_Rt_lg.jpg )
The M109 is an old girl, but she still holds up pretty darned well. It will be interesting to see how they turn out after the PIM upgrade is over.

No. 18133 hide quickreply [Reply]

Proof that Concealed Carry permit holders live in a dream world

The controlled study documented in these videos show that concealed carry permit holders are fooling themselves if they think they will be able to react effectively to armed aggressors. Most CCW holders won't even be able to un-holster their gun. They will more likely be killed themselves or kill innocent bystanders than stop the aggressor. For more details, see "Unintended Consequences: Pro-Handgun Experts Prove That Handguns Are a Dangerous Choice for Self-Defense." http://www.vpc.org/studies/unincont.htm.

CCW permit holders don't protect innocent people. They kill them.


Delete post []
Report post
Previous [0] [1] [2] [3] [4]