Hello /w/. This guide is intended to point you in the direction of buying your first handgun. After reading this you should have a good idea of what form factor to look for when you start shopping. I encourage everyone to do their own research. I won't tell you what brand or model to buy or what you should have your handgun chambered in and I'd really rather no one else did either.

First of all, If you have never held a handgun or any firearm in your life do not buy anything until you have been taught properly. Gun ranges usually offer basic safety courses but if you know someone who owns a firearm or two and has some experience, ask them to teach you. These are the most important things you will learn: You do not ever point a firearm even if it's unloaded at someone or something unless you intend to kill or destroy. You do not put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to fire at your target and know what lies beyond it. Trigger discipline is the most important part of handling a firearm. The ultimate safety is your trigger finger. Modern firearms do not go off by themselves. External Safeties exist to protect you from fucking up and causing a negligent discharge, nothing else.

Once you are confident in your ability to properly and safely use a handgun and are ready to buy one, you should decide what it will be used for. Different handguns fit different roles. For strictly home defense, I think most people agree that a 12 gauge shotgun with low recoil 00 buckshot is ideal. They are much cheaper than handguns and are much more effective. It is very easy to miss with a handgun in a tense situation. With a shotgun it is much more difficult to miss your target at typical indoor distances. For concealed carry, an automatic handgun that does not have a manual safety is ideal. You shouldn't have to worry about switching off a safety when your life is in danger. You might consider a revolver for their reliability. It's entirely up to you and what you are comfortable with. If you want a handgun strictly for plinking, buy something in .22 Long rifle. The least expensive .22LR ammunition is on average around 0.035 cents a round. If you want something a

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So I've been looking around to buy my first gun (I had a bunch as a kid, but my parents sold them when I moved out. Since then I've just used friends guns on occasion). Anyways, the Mosin-Nagant has been recommended by multiple people both online and in person. I've been looking around online, and it seems that the two most common models are the M38 and the M44. Still, I really don't know anything about the gun, and I want to know more about it, its pro's and con's, and where I should buy it and how to know I'm getting a good deal.

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>>	Anonymous 10/03/11(Thu)01:16 No. 14418 >>14415 Well yeah, they weren't technically mine, but the idea is that I have experience with guns. >>14417 Thanks, great link

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Anonymous 10/03/11(Thu)01:29 No. 14419 File: 126829975025.jpg-(38.77KB, 799x281, MosinBros01.jpg) I have an 1891/30 I bought for around $90 at a sporting goods store. It's a fun gun, but it's a crappy "first rifle" unless you're a WW2 era Russian conscript. It's not all that ergonomic, it smells funny, the barrel is suspect, and it's as old as your grandpa, but it's an all around a decent rifle that's relatively cheap to shoot and very sturdy. Some unpopular features include the metal buttplate and the utter lack of "smoothness" in the bolt's action. You'll hear a lot of wild exaggeration of how brutal the recoil is and how it's impossible to cycle the action without a rubber mallet, but it's not all that bad. Quick and dirty guide: m91/30: long rifle with detached bayonet (may not even fit) m44: short rifle with attached folding bayonet, supposedly shoots best with bayonet extended m38: short rifle as M44, but without bayonet The Russians love bayonets. Even if you never attach your bayonet, you should keep it by your tool chest because it makes a very handy (and very long) flathead screwdriver.

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Anonymous 10/03/11(Thu)02:00 No. 14420 No matter what you buy, remember to cork the barrel. Mosins always shoot better when you cork 'em. http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu63.htm >>14419 >smells funny Did you clean your rifle correctly after you bought it? The stink of cosmoline is pretty pervasive, but I couldn't detect it anymore after I cleaned mine a few times.

I've seen a few threads about self defense and the laws pertaining to self defense. Every state has different laws and these laws could be different on county level as well.

But you're basic laws for self defense are:
1) the force used in self defense has to be equal to the force being used against you. If a mugger jumps out at you with nothing but his fist and you pull out a gun and shoot him, that's not self defense. Again, the forces have to be near equal.

2) self defense does not include defense of your property (the exception being inside your home, I will discuss that later). If you walk out of a store and see someone trying to break into your car, you cannot run up to him and start wailing on him with a shovel.

3) It is not considered self defense if there was a means of escape available (the exception being inside your home, again, I will talk about that later). If you feel that you cannot outrun the attacker, and can prove the reasoning behind said fear, you are ok to defend yourself. But if the only thing you had to do was run 5 feet into a store, you cannot claim self defense.

4) The use of lethal force is only legal if you have a justifiable fear for your life. And lethal force does not mean you killed him. If you were to stab or shoot the attacker, even if only in the arm, it could be argued by a decent defense lawyer that you used lethal force.

5) You are only allowed to use enough force to make an opportunity for escape (exception being inside your home). If you start punching the attacker after he hits the ground, you're now guilty of agitated assault.

6) Being inside your home is an exception to some of these rules. If you're inside your home and someone is breaking in, it is legally understood that there is no means of escape. This is important because it opens exceptions in the other rules. Because there is no means of escape, proving that you feared for your life is not dependent on what the attacker is armed with or what he is doing. Because of this, it is also legally understood that the use of lethal force may be necessary to protect yourself. You still want to be careful about attacking the suspect af

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/w/, I'm looking for a knife. Not any of this namby pamby replica "battle ready" bullshit. I'm looking for a knife; a tool with which to handle many tasks, from opening a letter, to cutting a branch to stabbing a mugger.

Price (within reason) doesn't matter, but it would be nice to have a hard scabbard rather then a flimsy cloth or nylon one.

any suggestions?

does anyone know how i could get my hands on a Russian Makarov pistol and a holster for it that will chamber a round when

You must post in this thread if you have ever said
>Uzi nine-millimeter
>Forty-five longslide with laser sighting
>Twelve gauge autoloader
>Phased plasma-rifle in the forty-watt range

at a gun show or in a gun store.

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>>	Anonymous 10/02/19(Fri)10:34 No. 14313 "You can't do that!" "Wrong." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJRLoGYtkEM

>>	Anonymous 10/02/22(Mon)04:37 No. 14327 There was a Terminator video game (snes maybe?) where he'd say "A K FOURTY SEVEN MACHINE GUN" when you picked up the AK. Wish I could remember the title.

>>	Anonymous 10/03/08(Mon)20:15 No. 14409 File: 126810815256.gif-(95.77KB, 450x247, Richter.gif) See ya at the party Richter!

Can I use 12ga beanbag rounds in a sturdy flare gun? If no, is there any kind of less lethal round I can load into a handgun that can be fired at point blank range?

So yeah, I've been looking at what my first weapon would be for a while now. I've done some research and I've gone to the range and I've made friends and I've had discussions. I went to the range with it in my head that I'd try out an XD .45 ACP and a REC7. The range only had an XD .40 ACP and no REC7. Well, I'd made friends with the owner of the range a while back and I told him that I was interested in the Barret. He said "Hold on, wait here, I'll be right back". He went home and brought back his own REC7 to show me. Being a unsociable asshole, I strongarmed him into letting me bringing it down to the range.

So I fired off a box of ammo for both the .40 Springfield and the 6.8 Barret. I came back a little dissapointed in both. The Springfield felt cheep in my hands and looked tacky. Also I'm not a fan of the trigger safety, though I enjoy the lack of a manual safety.

The Barret's foregrip was uncomfortably large. I'd have to replace it with a picatinny rail and slap on a half vertical grip to make it comfortable. That, plus the high price of the thing and the absurd price of the cartridge is pretty off-putting in my mind.

The owner started to steer me towards the brand new fourth generation Glock they'd just gotten. I didn't get a chance to fire it, but I more or less liked it, but again there's the issue of that stupid trigger safety.

So I guess the point of all of this is that I'm looking for either a semi-large caliber assault rifle (preferably capable of full auto or burst fire) and a pistol for concealed carry. In a pistol I'd be looking for a cartridge of maximum lethality between point blank and about fifty yards, for the rifle, anywhere from fifty to 150 yards. Anywhere you could point me would be appreciated.

These things are so god damned sexy.

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Anonymous 10/03/02(Tue)09:33 No. 14383 File: 126755123294.jpg-(152.35KB, 800x598, 800px-DCB_Shooting_Bren_Ten_&_SW_610.jpg) >>14381 What do we have here...I'd like to pop each of those buttons off your cute little sherrif costume, let it fall away and see your goddamn sexy ass. Then I'd undo your skinny cop pants and move your gun away slowly and carefully. Then I'd eat out your asshole as you moan and your glasses fall off your weathered little face.

>>	Anonymous 10/03/02(Tue)12:09 No. 14384 >>14383 oh my, i threw up in my mouth a little.

>>	Anonymous 10/03/02(Tue)15:08 No. 14385 >>14384 I threw up on my keyboard. A lot. >>14381 God damn you man! Damn you in the eye-socket! I want a new keyboard, send me monies!