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>>7810

Thanks for the vote of confidence bro.

>RIP and TEAR

Doom comic refrence from what I remember.

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Hollow points are less effective at penetrating hard cover/body armor than an FMJ.
However are more effective in creating more force/internal damage with spread.

So if you're military and intend on having your weapon checked and taken with you on deployment, hopefully you're going to shoot unarmored targets.

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>>7843

Is that all covered in NROTC? Because that's where I'll be headed next fall if all goes as planned.

>>8210

Yes, weapons training is in NROTC.

>>8179 This is correct

>>8184
Debatable.
If you made it completely like the real thing, no.
If you toned down the calibre, yeah.

>>8184
>>8207

No, no. You could definitely fire it. Although you might only be able to fire it once.

All you have to do is extend the barrel and put weight on the bottom of the barrel. The gun would probably be damn heavy, but it's better than getting your forehead crushed or your wrist snapped.

Even when the second amendment was written it didn't protect the right of the people to own and operate artillery.

>>8212

Who here said it did?

Present, I've heard great things about Savage rifles and was thinking of buying one myself. I think some of them have 4-round mags, and then with one in the chamber it's a 5-rounder.

I think the reason for the small mag capacity is to comply with certain hunting regulations (ie: in some states you can't hunt with >5 round cap magazines in your rifle), and also because they want the bottom of the mag to fit flush with the stock (smoother look and all that).

>>8187

But Obama, what about my O/U shotgun I use for bird hunting? It holds TWO rounds!! Am I going going to jail? It's SPORTING, I swear!

>>8195

Why would you want that though? I can't imagine it being useful in an actual fight unless you caught the other person unaware.

Why not just get an EDC that could also be used to defend yourself if need be?

Anyway, if OP really wants one and money isn't an issue then a custom knifemaker would be the way to go. Or MercWorx, which are amazing knives but horrifically overpriced.

>>8197

>Why would you want that though?

Umm... because a weapon is a killing implement, and if you're not willing to use your weapon for it's intended purpose then you've no business having one in the first place.

>>8209

Don't give me that "responsibility" bullshit.

I think you're missing the point that a push dagger isn't a "fighting" tool, it's a "killing" tool and one that is only really useful if the person on the receiving end is caught unaware and unarmed.

"Self-defence" would imply that you're defending against something.

>>8170
a sig 550 with a long barrel

Swiss Arms Classic Black. I think they come in 3 different barrel lengths, the longest is Unrestricted, the other two are Restricted. I have yet to handle one (hope to in the next couple of weeks) but heard the craftsmanship is pretty darn good. I wonder if the mags can be unpinned, because 5 rnds suck.

Lots of enthusiasts for this on CGN if you haven't already checked. Lots of pix as well.

Sorry I wish I could tell you more.

>>8196
There's always purchasing a larger magazine in the states, or some other country with more sensible gun laws.

Rocks.

Oldest weapon in history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Improvised_explosive_device#Types_of_devices

/argument

>>8169
Explosively Formed Penetrator. They're often referred to as shaped charges, which is half-correct.

Basically, take a piece of copper, machine it into a precise cone or V-shaped channel, line the back of it with explosives, and detonate.

The explosive shockwave liquifies and focuses the molten copper into a jet, which does a staggering good job of cutting through steel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LudNqf56AFo

>>8175
Fuck you, I'm joining the French Foreign Legion.

>>8191

Actually the whole point would be to get away from working with computers. If I was to do it, I'd go for infantry, since that involves mostly running and shooting guns.

>>8153

I did almost exactly that, but managed to get off on pre-trial diversion.

>>8154

I can live with penises.

>>8194
This is the guy who joined on a whim.

Want to get away from desk work and into the shit? Go for it lol. I personally enjoy being in the sand box, days on end without showers, bunch of sweaty penises, a steady supply of MRE's.

I just recommend you and some friends go out paint balling or something first. Not the sissy 15 minute matches either, find a large enough area (few square miles) get muddy get dirty. Know what it's like before you sign up for 4 years of it. of course nothing can prepare you for actual combat except for combat. But a training exercise wouldn't hurt.

If you want to make killin a part of your life go for it. Tons of fun and profit to be had. Just make sure your mean enough for it or your going to get to week 3-4 of basic and be like some of the idiots I had the pleasantry of getting stuck with. Broke down crying messes wanting to go home to mommy because guns and loud noises scare them and PT is hard.

PSS'n all over those targets!

The ammo for that thing sounds pretty bizzare:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSS_Silent_Pistol

>>8177

Yep. Captive piston ammo. Very distinctive shell casings.