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6686 No. 6686 watch
Wannabe Writer here. Since /lit/ is so well read, I was wondering if you had tips for me and anyone else on here who might find the information useful. What are some of the biggest mistakes writers make, and what are some of the little things that can spice up my writing and make it so much better?
>> No. 6688
Read one thousand books.
>> No. 6689
Then write one thousand pages.

And rewrite them one thousand times.
>> No. 6692
if it doesn't come bursting out of you
in spite of everything,
don't do it.
unless it comes unasked out of your
heart and your mind and your mouth
and your gut,
don't do it.
if you have to sit for hours
staring at your computer screen
or hunched over your
typewriter
searching for words,
don't do it.
if you're doing it for money or
fame,
don't do it.
if you're doing it because you want
women in your bed,
don't do it.
if you have to sit there and
rewrite it again and again,
don't do it.
if it's hard work just thinking about doing it,
don't do it.
if you're trying to write like somebody
else,
forget about it.

if you have to wait for it to roar out of
you,
then wait patiently.
if it never does roar out of you,
do something else.

if you first have to read it to your wife
or your girlfriend or your tasmanian devil
or your parents or to anybody at all,
you're not ready.

don't be like so many writers,
don't be like so many thousands of
people who call themselves writers,
don't be dull and boring and
pretentious, don't be consumed with self-
love.
the libraries of the world have
yawned themselves to
sleep
over your kind.
don't add to that.
don't do it.
unless it comes out of
your soul like a rocket,
unless being still would
drive you to madness or
suicide or murder,
don't do it.
unless the sun inside you is
burning your gut,
don't do it.

when it is truly time,
and if you have been chosen,
it will do it by
itself and it will keep on doing it
until you die or it dies in you.

there is no other way.

and there never was.
>> No. 6695
>>6692
This post is just silly.
>> No. 6698
Here's a couple common blunders I've noticed:

-Stay in one tense--the past or present.
Ex. of what NOT to do: "Tom walked down the street and noticed the hot sun. The heat is pouring onto him causing the sweat to ooze out of him."

Correct Past-tense:
"Tom walked down the street and noticed the hot sun. The heat was pouring onto him. Sweat oozed out of him."

Correct-Present Tense:
"Tom walks down the street and notices the hot sun. The heat is pouring onto him causing the sweat to ooze out of him."

Also be careful when describing what a character looks like. In my opinion it's better to describe them early on, but NOT in the first paragraph, just somewhere in the first page. And try to be subtle, you're a writer not a painter--you just need to provide a rough outline of the character and provide any characteristics that are important to the plot: fat? anorexic? covered in scars? missing an eye? what?

-Read a lot. And get out of your comfort zone and reading many authors from many different times and places. Even reading a book you don't like can be good because you can find things you don't like about that author and make a note to avoid their style.

-Write a lot. At first you'll probably write nothing like garbage. Could you play your favorite tune immediately on the harpsichord if you never played before? NO. Writing is the same, it will take practice.

-When you finally decide to publish your work, be sure to EDIT a lot. I find it's helpful to just forget about what I've written for an entire week after I finish something, then I come back and think "Oh god, what the fuck was I thinking?"

Good luck.
>> No. 6701
>>6698

I'm not a professional writer or a published author, so take my advice with a grain of salt, but when I want to write something, I don't start immediately, I think about it for a long time. Sometimes a week or so. I flesh out a basic plot in my mind, and then some characters. If I have a good character, then it's easier for me to write, since I already know how they are going to react to a given situation.

Then I run the characters through the plot over and over and over. Each time something is added, and the plot thickens, and so do the characters. Then when I think I've got a really good idea, and I'm in the right mood for the scene, I'll start writing, and I'll be able to do ten or twenty pages in a sitting, pretty much flat stick, as fast as I can type.

And I try not to get caught up in insignificant details, the reader will supply most of those themselves.
>> No. 6710
>>6698

Off topic: I kinda want to write something in present tense. I barely ever see it used and only half the time it's used it's used well. I think it would be a fun challenge.
>> No. 6724
>>6698
I think this is all excellent advice.

If you are going to paint a vivid picture of something, do it very early. I noticed that mistake, glaringly, in Michael Crichton's Congo. He did not mention the main character had a beard until nearly halfway through the book.I hadn't been picturing a beard, at all, and it confused me for a moment, and then I became annoyed, especially as it never came up again.

If you forget to describe something about anything and it becomes important later, go back to the beginning and put it in somewhere.

The only time you should blatantly leave out descriptions that you will later bring up is when it's wholly intentional (as in a plot twist or a surprise).

-I would STRONGLy recommend you find an editor, don't just do it yourself. It doesn't have to be a professional, I edit for people all the time and it usually jumps them up an entire letter-grade. Hell, I'd be willing to do it for you if you email me something.
>> No. 6744
don't dictate what the reader should think. don't treat the reader like an idiot. if you want to say something, suggest it through your characters and what they do. get heavy-handed and start to lecture and it will show straight away. no-one gives a fuck what you think but we really will listen to the character. learn to find your voice. read all the greats because there's a reason they are.

>>6695
nope. that poster make a lot of good points.
>> No. 6755
You may want to try investing in some quality paper and fountain pen. It gives you a certain respect for each word you put down.
>> No. 6758
>>6755

It makes you think about every word you put down. Because if you mess up, you either need whiteout or an unsightly scratch-out. Also, you get to think about it again as you're transferring it from the paper to the computer. And you'll be thinking about it for three or four hours after finishing because you got down to some serious writing, and I know that whenever I write by hand for an extended period of time my hand tends to kill and my middle finger starts to hurt where the pen rubs on it.

But I have to admit it does look pretty nice, especially when I write in cursive, which is slower, but godlike in its beauty.
>> No. 6770
>>6758

I did use the word "may", there's obvious downsides to it and if you're under a deadline of some sort then of course a computer would be better. Not to mention if you're a particularly fast writer then writing on paper would be nearly impossible and probably hinder your abilities as a writer more than anything.

It's just another method, it works for some people sometimes, some none of the time and others all the time. As methods do
>> No. 6786
I did not feel like reading all of the other posts to see if someone already wrote this, but make sure that you understand your auabe lincolnnce well when you write. Most writers write for themselves, and use analogies/metaphors/words etc. that only they understand. As goes with themes/ideas, you have to be able to make your auabe lincolnnce be able to understand it, and always thin that any mistake you make or anything they do not understand will make them put your writing down.
>> No. 6791
>>6786

I had to read that six times before I realized it was the word filter.

Auabe lincolnnce
>> No. 6792
>>6791

Audi-_-ence

Wordfilters on /lit/ are silly
>> No. 6796
>>6786

I don't know actually. Kafka wrote for himself and the average reader doesn't know what the fuck Burroughs is talking about in Naked Lunch or James Joyce in Finnegan's Wake, yet these books are classics.

From a market-perspective of course one should keep the auabe lincolnnce in mind if they wanna sell anything...still, that doesn't always have to be the case--sometimes the auabe lincolnnce likes a mystery.
>> No. 6883
>>6701
OH, hey, that's EXACTLY how I do it. Everyone says, oh just go with the first burst of what ever you feel first! I feel so uncomfortable doing that- I love letting it simmer a bit.
>> No. 6897
>>6796
Well Kafka may be a special case, but I'm sure Joyce and Burroughs still understood their audience, and understood that an audience existed who would enjoy their works. It is good to keep them in mind.
>> No. 6898
>>6692
so basically don't write unless you can do everything perfectly right off the bat without a second thought? I'm pretty sure that qualifies as stupid.
>> No. 6899
>>6897
Problem with that is that the audience that actually ENJOYS Joyce is astronomically small. I can't stand his stupid shit. Yeah I get that making a book almost entirely out of allusions and metaphors has to be difficult, but that doesn't make it entertaining or even worth the read. Personally I can't read anymore then a few pages of Joyce without groaning and going off to read something that doesn't have it's head lodged up it's ass.
>> No. 6900
>>6758
I believe Asimov said of people who write in ink first "I believe they're a mostly harmless, even quaint, cabal of mutants"
>> No. 6907
>>6900

Didn't he also believe that the world would get blown up by 2005?
>> No. 6908
>>6907
dunno, but brilliance and eccentricity often go hand in hand so Its possible.
>> No. 6924
>>6908
It really wasn't eccentric. That was a pretty popular cold war opinion shared by many.
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